In a world often fueled by outrage media and characterized by an ever-evolving outrage culture, we recognize the importance of tackling pressing issues with depth and compassion.
In this bonus episode, we embark on a journey that challenges prevailing narratives surrounding naturopathy and its role in the lives of individuals grappling with chronic conditions. It’s a subject that has generated its fair share of outrage and controversy within our society.
Panel Guests:

A former naturopathic doctor turned advocate for evidence-based medicine, Britt Marie Hermes brings a critical viewpoint to the discussion. Her work has been featured in major publications, making her a prominent voice in the field.

As a board-certified physician specializing in pediatrics and internal medicine, Dr. Michael Lenz has a deep understanding of chronic conditions. His book, “Conquering Your Fibromyalgia,” and podcast, “Conquering Your Fibromyalgia,” offer valuable insights into this complex issue.
Episode Highlights:
- Exploring Naturopathy: Gain a comprehensive understanding of what naturopathy entails and why some individuals turn to it when grappling with chronic conditions.
- Chronic Condition Realities: Discover the challenges and frustrations faced by individuals with chronic conditions within the traditional healthcare system.
- The Naturopathy Predicament: Uncover the risks, pitfalls, and financial burdens associated with naturopathic care for chronic conditions.
- Evidence-Based Advocacy: Britt Marie Hermes shares her transformation from a naturopathic practitioner to an advocate for evidence-based medicine.
- Safe Healthcare Practices: Dr. Michael Lenz offers insights into safe healthcare choices for those seeking relief from chronic conditions.
Join us for an eye-opening discussion that challenges preconceived notions about naturopathy and its impact on individuals with chronic conditions. This episode aims to empower listeners to make informed healthcare decisions while fostering compassion for those on a challenging journey toward wellness.