Aired May 13, 2026

In this episode, we sit down with Corey Nathan, host of Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killing Each Other and a partner in The Democracy Group, to explore the mechanics of the modern outrage industry. We move beyond the surface of political bickering to examine the systemic business models that prioritize high-conflict content over constructive dialogue.

Our conversation focuses on the biological and evolutionary roots of polarization, unpacking why our brains are often more attracted to the “dopamine hit” of outrage than the slow work of nuance. Corey shares his perspective on the “Exhausted Majority”—the vast segment of the population that feels alienated by extreme rhetoric but lacks a clear path forward.

We also discuss tactical ways to navigate difficult conversations without “seeding the ground” for further conflict. By focusing on curiosity and the stories behind people’s beliefs, we can begin to strengthen our civic muscle and push back against the stress of constant anger. This episode offers a look at how we might reclaim our emotional resilience and maintain the connections required for a functioning democracy.

Corey Nathan is an entrepreneur and host of the podcast Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other. Bridging his Jewish upbringing and Christian faith, he facilitates civil dialogue across deep divides. A creative businessman and father, Corey champions cultural repair.

Links

Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other (politicsandreligion.us)

The Democracy Group (democracygroup.org)